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Content Warning

Bleeps this time too, friends. Although there were considerably fewer swears this time around.

although the first one happens in the intro

We also talk about the potentially upsetting story of Kelly Savage within the first few minutes of the show – feel free to skip ahead to the 5 minute mark.

As with the first part, I bleeped the instances of Lulu’s other half because I didn’t get the chance to ask him if we could say his name during the show.

There is an unintentional innuendo laden joke in this part, at around 14 minutes

it was also the inspiration for the art work, too

so watch out for that, if you’re listening with little ones or the easily offended or embarrassed.


We start with Squidgey doing the intro whilst I was out of the room – the cheeky blighter.

This is part two of our epic discussion with Lulu.

part one is available here

We covered a lot of our thoughts on the coming Final Fantasy VII remake

one thing to know is that we recorded this BEFORE E3 so some of our thoughts and opinions were proven wrong

but we start with a discussion on Kotaku which melds into a discussion about how you can be a fan of a stand up or comedian’s character without agreeing with everything that they do.

In other words, we talk a little about the many thoughts and opinions of RazörFist on Kotaku

warning: swears and thing which might offend

The Technodrome is the greatest country in the world

– Squidgey

Lulu takes us on the journey into Distant Worlds, what it is, and why we should all go to it. Essentially, Distant Worlds is a touring concert of full orchestras and choirs, playing the music of the Final Fantasy series.

Lulu had taken in Distant Worlds at the Royal Albert Hall. The RAH has always been on Lulu’s list of places to visit, and she has been a number of times specifically to see this show.

shout out to the Royal Albert Hall and the staff who work there

She also drops the bomb that the second half of the show was dedicated to Final Fantasy VII – something they have never done before

remember folks, this was before E3

Both Lulu and myself all but convince Squidgey that it would be a good idea for him to go to a Distant Worlds concert, but he remains resistant because of the potential for them to play that song

long time fans of the show will know what that song is

Then comes the section of the pod which lead to the creation of the art work for this discussion with Lulu. I’m not going to say what it is, because it’ll spoil the whole thing.

We then ask Squidgey to watch the Final Fantasy VII Remake trailer – something he had avoided until we asked him to watch it live on the pod – and give us his thoughts. In preparation for the trailer watching experience, I managed to sound like I was underwater, too. Not sure what happened there.

Take the damn flower!

– Squidgey

All in all, I think Squidgey was impressed with the trailer. Although, he was a little reluctant about the voice acting at first.

We then talk about how

at the time of recording

the hot topic was whether the game was going to be an episodic affair or not. Which leads us into a discussion about similarly episodic titles like The Walking Dead and Half Life games.

please Square-Enix, don’t make us wait forever for each episode – if it’s still going to be episodic

Squidgey then takes us on another journey into Resident Evil Revelations 2, again. And I chime in with how most episodic games are fully completed before each part is released… with the exception of Half Life 2, of course.

Discussing the potential episodic nature of the remake, we worry about where the episode breaks could be. Would the end of the Midgar section of the game be the end of the first part? There’s about 3 to 8 hours of content there alone.

Each episode could be the same size of Final Fantasy XIV – which took around 40 hours to complete

– Lulu

But if it does end up being episodic, what if I don’t buy episode 2 but not episode 1? Something to consider, for sure. Also, with all of this talk about the potential size of the game, how long would it take to download it?

Squidgey then brings up the potential for the remake being a launch title for the PS5

remember, we recorded this BEFORE E3

and he and Lulu shock me with just how old they both are

Playstation 4 launch date was 15th of November, 2013

– Lulu

Lulu then talks up how the remake could be released on both the PS4 and PS5

this was recorded way before Square-Enix announced that it was even coming to the Switch

Squidgey then makes us worry about the potential for the Gold Saucer section of the game to be micro transaction heavy

which was a completely different direction that I thought he was going to go in

and Lulu reminds us that the Gold Saucer in FFXIV doesn’t have any micro transactions. This leads us onto a discussion about micro transactions, “pay to win”, and how a lot of companies pray on folks who do that.

We also talk about how upset we’d be if Square-Enix release ANYHTING which SPOILER SPOILER, with Squidge and Lulu both saying that they would riot if it happened.

Effort and reward comes up as we discuss the differences between “pay to win” and actually achieving anything in the game. Lulu also talks about how she contacted someone about how much they would charge for taking her character through quests and bosses, and the prices are ridiculous. Especially since you’re paying someone to play the game for you.

I mean, what’s the point in that? I mean, it’s like paying someone to eat your food for you. Let us know in the comments.

Games Mentioned

  • Battlefield (series)
  • Final Fantasy (series)
  • The Walking Dead (series)
  • Half Life 2
  • Resident Evil Revelations 2
  • Call of Duty (series)


Links to the music used in the podcast can be found below. Definitely check them out, because they’re amazing tracks by awesome musicians.


Leave a comment in the section on this page and let us know what you liked, what you didn’t like and which games you’d like to hear us waffle on about next time.

Until then,

Game on!

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Jamie is one of the Waffling Taylors. He spends a lot of time blogging about things sometimes related to programming and sometimes not.